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202 comments · +1,083 / −1,582 · rank #40215 of 40,276

If you prefer logic, then heres a good quote from a Massey Uni Institute of Agriculture and Environment study:At the higher end, the estimated cost of some environmental externalities surpasses the 2012 dairy export revenue of NZ$11.6 billion and almost reaches the combined export revenue and dairy's contribution to GDP in 2010 of NZ$5 billion. - New Zealand Dairy Farming: Milking Our Environment for All Its Worth: Kyleisha J. Foote, Michael K. Joy, Russell G. Death

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But the voter ID application forms were readily available...Readily available? I eventually had to go down to the cellar to find them.Thats the voter ID application form department.With a torch.Ah, well the lights had probably gone.So had the stairs.But look, you found the voter ID application forms, didnt you?Yes, yes I did. They were in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying Beware of the Leopard.

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Jim was probably hoping noone would actually go and read the OECD report. I did, and here are some choice excerpts:The analysis in this report is not a prediction of what will happen. nor a synthesis of all the social costs of climate change.[...] uncertainty should not be an excuse for inaction.This report presents only one possible economic scenario and it cannot capture all impacts of climate change.[...] if barriers to adaptation are strong, and firms and households are not able to adapt at all, the costs of climate change can even double.

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Heres two:Cook, Nuccitelli, et. al. (2013). Quantifying the consensus on anthropogenic global warming in the scientific literature. Environmental Research Letters, Volume 8,Number 2Cook, Oreskes, Doran, Anderegg, Verheggen, Maibach et. al. (2016). Consensus on consensus: a synthesis of consensus estimates on human-caused global warming.Environmental Research Letters, 11(4), 048002.

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He means since preindustrial times. Mean global sea level has already risen 30cm since then, and a further 70cm is predicted by 2100 under the RCP8.5 scenario (emissions continue to rise throughout the 21st century).

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Sorry you were slightly inconvenienced for a few minutes of one day. Your children are going to be much more inconvenienced by climate change in a few decades.

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Only 2 Nobel Laureates have denied climate change: Ivar Giaever (a mechanical engineer, not a climate scientist), and Kary Mullis (a biochemist, not a climate scientist).

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