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83 comments · +1,008 / −301 · rank #1476 of 40,276

Been there with this. It is very challenging to get these people working. The pastoral care required is huge. The redacted figure of $12k is highly likely. The suggestion that these outcomes can be achieved for as little as $3-6k is laughable. This proposal looks like something only people with no real world experience of these issues would suggest.

+68−3

Happy to take family groups with young children for these people are truly in need. The young Islamic men who have bypassed Indonesia the largest Islamic nation in the world are simply pioneers to get their families into Australia or NZ. These people have the simple goal of bypassing our immigration policies.

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Hard data must always be based on what is measurable. It is legitimate to fear that imperfect hard measures will be replaced by more arbitrary feel good statements which avoid any 1 accountability. This is after all a huge investment by us all, we are entitled to see some meaningful performance measures and to hold Ministers and Departmental heads accountable for their performance.

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Not really new, it was similar I am sure when I graduated 45 years ago. Less than half the students I enrolled with stood with me on graduation day. Many developed other interests or life;on the family farm or in the family business became a more appealing option, than the undoubted slog of developing a professional career.

+16−0

Absolutely, when a person working hard with a University degree, and a postgraduate qualification can not live a reasonable middle class life in Auckland we have got it wrong. My experience of a corporate career and living in a family of teachers mirrors this experience absolutely.

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The structure of many businesses makes this a challenge. For example in building the prevalence of contracting rather than waged employment makes it poor business to commit to supported trading. The âbuilderâon the site is likely to be a contract hammer hand, charged with only a limited role in the construction and with a corresponding limited skill set and often no formal qualification.

+4−0

Here is a hint, when a 2.5% rate increase just covers the rise in staffing costs, is that not a good place to start? The super city has become a truly desirable employer with wages and conditions unmatched in the wider world.

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It is all about the volunteer commitment by parents. Fewer parents are able to participate in modern life, either as volunteers or as customers due the hours they themselves are committed to working life. Another example of how both children and parents loose at this wonderful time in a childs life.

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Of course the CEO is thrilled, his future on the elite sport gravy train is secure on the backs of the athletes. Lisa and her colleagues have earned their accolades many times over, they deserve a much greater share of the rewards.

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I have personal experience of an earlier âMana in Mahi❠scheme based on MSD clients. Reviewing it after 3 years I had 100% failure, despite significant pastoral effort. The issue is not just the individual but the environment in which this person lives. It is much harder and requires a much greater commitment than indicated so far. If it cost $100,000 per successful candidate, after 3 years it would still be a bargain as this is the cost of only 1 year in prison. I can see no evidence that the degree of difficulty is acknowledged by any of the proponents of this scheme.

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Quite a conflict with the stated plans of POAL. However the return on this CBD land the port earns for the people of AUCKLAND is so small that the poor commercial return of a stadium will not be much of a change. The challenge lies in the commercial offset of redeveloping Eden Park in the face of the local NIMBYS, and getting consent for the Bledisloe wharf redevelopment.

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