The fact you refer to is based on stats that dont take into account previous offending. I remember once reading an article in the Northland Age (April 2016) about a young Maori male dubbed one of Kaitaias worst burglars. He had a list of offences as long as your arm and had been given a final warning before being arrested yet again. Yet the police AND the judge decided to give him a final, final warning as they believed prison would make him come out worse. The suggestion that young Maori are jailed at the drop of a hat is misleading. Often, both the police and the courts give these guys numerous chances and bend over backwards to keep them OUT of jail
You dont need to get a better job; you need to spend less. Read the article. When I look around my neighbourhood, I see young families living in nice 10-20 year old homes, with a new trampoline in the garden, a new Ford Ranger in the driveway, a Sky dish on the roof, and often a jet ski or boat. And when I go out, the cafes, restaurants and shops are always packed.
So, for example, there appears to be a ghost house near to my mother on the North Shore. Market value would be around $1.5MLets say that I own it, and I take your advice to sell it. Which of the people living in cars or first-home buyers would be able to purchase it? Or are you saying I should sell it for well below market value? Maybe take a loss on it?
theres an estimated 33,000 ghost houses in Auckland aloneEstimated how? How accurate are these stats? Who determines whether a property is actually a ghost house or not, and how?Is Stuff simply relying on anecdotes from people like reader Catherine Bright?
It all depends on your mortgage and whether you have kids. I have never earned a six-figure salary, and I have two kids, but were going OK (which is to say, were treading water)
I always offer my seat or hold doors open for - well - pretty much everyone. And I will continue to do so, until I get the Im pregnant; not disabled! or would you hold a door open for a man? treatment
You have bonds and insuranceBonds and insurance wont be much good if the tenants smoke P in the house. Most insurance companies will only pay out a fraction of the costs associated with P contamination.
Right, so that would answer my question; but I cannot see where Stuff reveals how they came up with this 33,000 figureYour suggestion is fine; but it is this actually how Stuff have arrived at 33,000?Also, would the government having access to my power/water usage data not create privacy issues?
Moved to Tauranga a couple of years ago and was shocked to receive power bills in excess of $400When questioned, we were told that we were using pretty much the same power (in terms of units) as we did in Auckland, but power is more expensive in Tauranga due to economies of scaleSadly, salaries are much lower (I took a 30% hit when I moved) We switched companies, which addressed part of the problem, but we still ration the use of the heat-pump. We have a spa pool that we will use maybe 14 days a year, plus underfloor heating that we have literally never used. Things were so bad at one stage that I was literally reading the meter daily, and limiting showers to 2 minutes.
In New Zealand freedom of expression is limited by the Human Rights Act which prohibits hate speech in relation to race or ethnicity but not sexual orientation.Or gender. Which is why feminists within the MSM gets away with attacking, bullying and shaming men on a daily basis, and saying things about men that they would never say about any other group in society.For example, Stuff will happily use the headline Men need to fix rape culture in New Zealand, but wouldnt dare say such things about Muslims or Maori; because neither the public, nor Dame Susan Devoy, would tolerate such offensive comments. Time to change the law?
There are 3-bedroom houses for sale in Mangere East for $530,000If people are starving (to use your analogy), why not go and eat there, rather than complaining that they cannot afford to eat on the North Shore, or Mission Bay?
Yes, I got the sarcasm, thanks. The point you were making is that science > anecdotes by ironically suggesting the opposite. I addressed the point you were actually making.
So youre saying that nobody with qualifications is ever wrong about anything and has never misinterpreted anything? Plenty of things were deemed safe by highly-intelligent and highly-qualified people 50 years ago that we avoid like the plague now. In the late 1800s, heroin was used as a cough suppressant
No. The presence of P would likely have an impact on the resale value of the house - regardless of what this one study shows.My mother has a monolithic-clad house, built in the late 1990s. It isnt leaky (it has been tested), but she can still expect to take a financial hit when she sells it because there is still that stigma around monolithic cladding. Same goes for P-tainted houses.
One study isnt scienceIf it was, then most scientists, academics and researchers would be unemployed. It is common to have one study say one thing, and other studies saying the opposite. That said, Gluckmans comments are being misinterpreted by many people here, including the author. A bombshell report shows there is no risk to humans from third hand exposure to houses where methamphetamine has been consumed.It does nothing of the sort. It says that there is no evidence of harm. But the long-term effects are unknown.
And speeding causes more accidents than drink-drivingWhats your point? That we should ignore drink-driving? That drink-driving isnt worth worrying about because speeding is worse?
ONE study isnt the be-all and end-all.Whether were talking about diets, running shoes or the gender pay gap, its common to have some studies find one thing, and other studies to find the exact opposite. The goalposts keep moving as more and more studies are done.
The issue is that it is difficult to determine just how contaminated a house it. The chemicals leech into the walls, the timber frames and the bats, so if you were to take a sample from a wall - especially a freshly-painted wall - there may well be barely any contamination. But if you test the same wall 6 months later, it may have high levels of contamination as the chemicals seep through the walls and the paint.
No, the scientists have been saying we dont know and it cannot be proven either way, so better safe than sorry - which is drastically different to there is unequivocally nil risk
A 2016 study conducted out of Colorado by the National Jewish Medical and Research Center noted that health impacts of exposure to meth on children are relatively unknown.We dont know the effects on long terms in kids of 1 of 5 or 10 exposures, Luedtke said. We know pretty clearly from other exposures, you can permanently stunt the size of a kids lungs by exposure to certain things. Theyll never be a marathon runner just because they were exposed to high levels of tobacco for a certain number of years in their life. It may be the same with high levels of other chemicals. (NBC)I thought that the argument was always about what the health effects MAY be, not what they are. And Gluckman saying we cant find a single case doesnt actually refute this point. The question is, would you want your kids growing up in a meth-tainted house? I wouldnt.
Amazing (and disturbing) how many people here are taking one single study that says not proven and interpreting this as irrefutable and undeniable science and evidence that there is zero riskI can give you one study that shows zero evidence of racial bias by US cops (Roland G Fryer; Harvard; 2016), but Im guessing that many of the commenters here would be happy to critique his study or provide examples of other studies that refute his findings.
It wont kill the industry and heres why:Regardless of this new report, there is still a stigma surrounding P-tainted properties (just as there is with monolithic-clad houses; even if there is no evidence of moisture). This has an impact on the market value of the property; which is something that the Banks have an obvious vested interest in. As such, they will continue to insist that properties are tested for - and insured against - P-contamination. Plus prospective buyers may still want a P-test for their own peace of mind. Furthermore, this new report only relates to P being smoked, not manufactured. As such, there will still be plenty of demand for P-tests
I have a few issues with the way Stuff is reporting this1. No evidence of risk (per the report) is not the same as there is no risk (as reported by Stuff). The long-term health effects are still unknown. Its a bit like carrying an iPhone around in your pocket for 12 hours a day. There may be no proven side-effects today, but in 25 years, it may turn out that the habit is making people infertile 2. When talking about a safe level (1.5mg per 100sq cm), that reading is at a single point in time. If you take a swab on a freshly-painted wall and get a reading of 1.5mg per 100sq cm, that same wall may have deteriorated to 3.0mg 100sq cm) within six months, as the chemicals leach from the wooden frame and the bats, and back into the gib.
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Extra prisoners are nearly all gang members - thats hardly a crisis
The fact you refer to is based on stats that dont take into account previous offending. I remember once reading an article in the Northland Age (April 2016) about a young Maori male dubbed one of Kaitaias worst burglars. He had a list of offences as long as your arm and had been given a final warning before being arrested yet again. Yet the police AND the judge decided to give him a final, final warning as they believed prison would make him come out worse. The suggestion that young Maori are jailed at the drop of a hat is misleading. Often, both the police and the courts give these guys numerous chances and bend over backwards to keep them OUT of jail
High-paid families feeling the squeeze
You dont need to get a better job; you need to spend less. Read the article. When I look around my neighbourhood, I see young families living in nice 10-20 year old homes, with a new trampoline in the garden, a new Ford Ranger in the driveway, a Sky dish on the roof, and often a jet ski or boat. And when I go out, the cafes, restaurants and shops are always packed.
Extra prisoners are nearly all gang members - thats hardly a crisis
As someone whose father spent 42 years in the New Zealand Police, I disagree
Opinion: Tax ghost houses and pour the money back into affordable housing
So, for example, there appears to be a ghost house near to my mother on the North Shore. Market value would be around $1.5MLets say that I own it, and I take your advice to sell it. Which of the people living in cars or first-home buyers would be able to purchase it? Or are you saying I should sell it for well below market value? Maybe take a loss on it?
Opinion: Tax ghost houses and pour the money back into affordable housing
theres an estimated 33,000 ghost houses in Auckland aloneEstimated how? How accurate are these stats? Who determines whether a property is actually a ghost house or not, and how?Is Stuff simply relying on anecdotes from people like reader Catherine Bright?
High-paid families feeling the squeeze
It all depends on your mortgage and whether you have kids. I have never earned a six-figure salary, and I have two kids, but were going OK (which is to say, were treading water)
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I always offer my seat or hold doors open for - well - pretty much everyone. And I will continue to do so, until I get the Im pregnant; not disabled! or would you hold a door open for a man? treatment
Opinion: Tax ghost houses and pour the money back into affordable housing
And 84% of voters agree with you
Opinion: Tax ghost houses and pour the money back into affordable housing
84% out of 73,000 voters have said No, its their house, they can do what they wantJust saying...
Opinion: Tax ghost houses and pour the money back into affordable housing
You have bonds and insuranceBonds and insurance wont be much good if the tenants smoke P in the house. Most insurance companies will only pay out a fraction of the costs associated with P contamination.
Opinion: Tax ghost houses and pour the money back into affordable housing
Right, so that would answer my question; but I cannot see where Stuff reveals how they came up with this 33,000 figureYour suggestion is fine; but it is this actually how Stuff have arrived at 33,000?Also, would the government having access to my power/water usage data not create privacy issues?
Being cold and rationing heating is now normal in New Zealand
Moved to Tauranga a couple of years ago and was shocked to receive power bills in excess of $400When questioned, we were told that we were using pretty much the same power (in terms of units) as we did in Auckland, but power is more expensive in Tauranga due to economies of scaleSadly, salaries are much lower (I took a 30% hit when I moved) We switched companies, which addressed part of the problem, but we still ration the use of the heat-pump. We have a spa pool that we will use maybe 14 days a year, plus underfloor heating that we have literally never used. Things were so bad at one stage that I was literally reading the meter daily, and limiting showers to 2 minutes.
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In New Zealand freedom of expression is limited by the Human Rights Act which prohibits hate speech in relation to race or ethnicity but not sexual orientation.Or gender. Which is why feminists within the MSM gets away with attacking, bullying and shaming men on a daily basis, and saying things about men that they would never say about any other group in society.For example, Stuff will happily use the headline Men need to fix rape culture in New Zealand, but wouldnt dare say such things about Muslims or Maori; because neither the public, nor Dame Susan Devoy, would tolerate such offensive comments. Time to change the law?
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Opinion: Tax ghost houses and pour the money back into affordable housing
There are 3-bedroom houses for sale in Mangere East for $530,000If people are starving (to use your analogy), why not go and eat there, rather than complaining that they cannot afford to eat on the North Shore, or Mission Bay?
The meth house is a myth: Theres no risk from drug smoking residue, Govt report finds
Yes, I got the sarcasm, thanks. The point you were making is that science > anecdotes by ironically suggesting the opposite. I addressed the point you were actually making.
The meth house is a myth: Theres no risk from drug smoking residue, Govt report finds
So youre saying that nobody with qualifications is ever wrong about anything and has never misinterpreted anything? Plenty of things were deemed safe by highly-intelligent and highly-qualified people 50 years ago that we avoid like the plague now. In the late 1800s, heroin was used as a cough suppressant
The meth house is a myth: Theres no risk from drug smoking residue, Govt report finds
No. The presence of P would likely have an impact on the resale value of the house - regardless of what this one study shows.My mother has a monolithic-clad house, built in the late 1990s. It isnt leaky (it has been tested), but she can still expect to take a financial hit when she sells it because there is still that stigma around monolithic cladding. Same goes for P-tainted houses.
The meth house is a myth: Theres no risk from drug smoking residue, Govt report finds
One study isnt scienceIf it was, then most scientists, academics and researchers would be unemployed. It is common to have one study say one thing, and other studies saying the opposite. That said, Gluckmans comments are being misinterpreted by many people here, including the author. A bombshell report shows there is no risk to humans from third hand exposure to houses where methamphetamine has been consumed.It does nothing of the sort. It says that there is no evidence of harm. But the long-term effects are unknown.
The meth house is a myth: Theres no risk from drug smoking residue, Govt report finds
The cold medicine in an airtight glass bottle, in a locked cupboard, you mean?Hardly comparable.
The meth house is a myth: Theres no risk from drug smoking residue, Govt report finds
And speeding causes more accidents than drink-drivingWhats your point? That we should ignore drink-driving? That drink-driving isnt worth worrying about because speeding is worse?
The meth house is a myth: Theres no risk from drug smoking residue, Govt report finds
And there are zero instances of one study contradicting another, earlier study, right?
Meth tester: Govt report could kill clean-up industry
So Labour should be questioning Gluckmans report?
The meth house is a myth: Theres no risk from drug smoking residue, Govt report finds
ONE study isnt the be-all and end-all.Whether were talking about diets, running shoes or the gender pay gap, its common to have some studies find one thing, and other studies to find the exact opposite. The goalposts keep moving as more and more studies are done.
The meth house is a myth: Theres no risk from drug smoking residue, Govt report finds
The issue is that it is difficult to determine just how contaminated a house it. The chemicals leech into the walls, the timber frames and the bats, so if you were to take a sample from a wall - especially a freshly-painted wall - there may well be barely any contamination. But if you test the same wall 6 months later, it may have high levels of contamination as the chemicals seep through the walls and the paint.
The meth house is a myth: Theres no risk from drug smoking residue, Govt report finds
No, the scientists have been saying we dont know and it cannot be proven either way, so better safe than sorry - which is drastically different to there is unequivocally nil risk
The meth house is a myth: Theres no risk from drug smoking residue, Govt report finds
A 2016 study conducted out of Colorado by the National Jewish Medical and Research Center noted that health impacts of exposure to meth on children are relatively unknown.We dont know the effects on long terms in kids of 1 of 5 or 10 exposures, Luedtke said. We know pretty clearly from other exposures, you can permanently stunt the size of a kids lungs by exposure to certain things. Theyll never be a marathon runner just because they were exposed to high levels of tobacco for a certain number of years in their life. It may be the same with high levels of other chemicals. (NBC)I thought that the argument was always about what the health effects MAY be, not what they are. And Gluckman saying we cant find a single case doesnt actually refute this point. The question is, would you want your kids growing up in a meth-tainted house? I wouldnt.
The meth house is a myth: Theres no risk from drug smoking residue, Govt report finds
Amazing (and disturbing) how many people here are taking one single study that says not proven and interpreting this as irrefutable and undeniable science and evidence that there is zero riskI can give you one study that shows zero evidence of racial bias by US cops (Roland G Fryer; Harvard; 2016), but Im guessing that many of the commenters here would be happy to critique his study or provide examples of other studies that refute his findings.
Meth tester: Govt report could kill clean-up industry
It wont kill the industry and heres why:Regardless of this new report, there is still a stigma surrounding P-tainted properties (just as there is with monolithic-clad houses; even if there is no evidence of moisture). This has an impact on the market value of the property; which is something that the Banks have an obvious vested interest in. As such, they will continue to insist that properties are tested for - and insured against - P-contamination. Plus prospective buyers may still want a P-test for their own peace of mind. Furthermore, this new report only relates to P being smoked, not manufactured. As such, there will still be plenty of demand for P-tests
Meth tester: Govt report could kill clean-up industry
I have a few issues with the way Stuff is reporting this1. No evidence of risk (per the report) is not the same as there is no risk (as reported by Stuff). The long-term health effects are still unknown. Its a bit like carrying an iPhone around in your pocket for 12 hours a day. There may be no proven side-effects today, but in 25 years, it may turn out that the habit is making people infertile 2. When talking about a safe level (1.5mg per 100sq cm), that reading is at a single point in time. If you take a swab on a freshly-painted wall and get a reading of 1.5mg per 100sq cm, that same wall may have deteriorated to 3.0mg 100sq cm) within six months, as the chemicals leach from the wooden frame and the bats, and back into the gib.