Our kids didnt have phones until the Feb 2011 earthquake hit ChCh. it took me 1.5 hrs to get to my sons school. The kids were all on the play field waiting for parents to come. some mothers came in crying. My son had heard parents talking about building being down and deaths. he spent 1.5hrs worrying whether I was ok. I didnt find this out until a week or so later when he would want me to stay at the park while he was doing his sport training. I said to him you are in the open, no building to fall and he told me shecwasnt worried for himself, he wanted to know I was ok. I bought both of them basic txt phones so each big shake we all txt each other that we were ok. they then got basis smart phones 1st year at varsity
When Im doing the school pick-up, I notice a lot of kids get on their phones within seconds of leaving the classroom...... Teachers work hard to engage pupils and neither needs smartphones distracting from learning.....Little contradictory there. The pupils arent being distracted from learning if theyre not using them during school time, you witnessed them using the phones after school time.Maybe theyre reading messages from Mum/Dad/Carer about pickup location/time etc Today Im parked down the road to the left past the blue house.... etc.
My kids cycled to primary school, and things happen on the way home, like flat tires or, in one case, a broken arm. We gave them basic phones (no game apps) so they had someone to rescue them.At school these were handed into the office. How is that bad parenting?The primary school itself uses ipads for working, research, etc. This is modern teaching. The high school puts all homework online, and all work is submitted via google docs. Yes, there is an addiction issue, but when I was young people were addicted to TV. My kids dont watch TV, its too boring. Modern world.
Yes to phones when travelling and out on own. No to phones in classrooms. As my youngest has said I dont think of my phone as something to use for school, its for entertainment.
Yes are you kidding. Text Mum bus driver just left me in the middle of nowhere on the side of the road.
This happened to our Granddaughter and a friend,bus driver just dumped them on a country road. Fortunately my Granddaughter was able to phone Mum to collect them . Friend has now also got a cellphone. It is a safety matter.
Each to their own; but I dont see why primary school kids would need a phone.We just got our boy a phone, hes at intermediate, making his own way to after school activities. The phone keeps him in touch should there be a need.The phone gets secured in class during school time so no distractions there.He doesnt get to keep it in his room at night to avoid distractions there too.Thats how it should work I reckon.
School Pick up. Where am I parked? Which way do you turn when you leave the school grounds? Do I need you to cross the road, using the patrolled sidewalk or am I parked on the same side of the road as the school? Am I running late? The phone is a convenient communication device when used properly. No problems here with my child looking at her phone when she steps out of the class.
Lol. No, but I have these exact same discussions with my elderly mother.Youre old! Take your phone in case something happens!
Phones are handy devices but are quite unnecessary and in fact detrimental in a classroom. Give your child a basic phone, they hand it in on arrival at school, pick it up and check those parental pickup texts etc as they leave the school gates. That answers all the issues re communication and safety but without adding yet another distraction from their learning.Yes we live in the modern world and so we use devices: laptops, chromebooks and ipads in the classrooms that work very well for research, writing, presentations and coding etc. They also have screens and keyboards that are far more suited to these activities than a phone screen. These devices are also monitored and audited for the childrens safety and to ensure they are on task. Why would you need a personal smartphone at school?@NBL, I am very familiar with the curriculum and in particular the new digital technologies curriculum. Yes it does expect students to use devices to create a wide range of material. Nowhere does it specifically mention phones as being necessary or desirable.
I sense an opportunity for someone to develop and market a school phone. Hmmmm...
My sons school back in the UK had a very strong rule on phone usage and god forbid a student who walked along during school using their phone. They didnt and it was accepted as part of the school rule. Any school could enforce the no phones to be used during school hours IF they really wanted to. But it just goes into the too much work/hard basket which would result in too many detentions until the students finally realised you dont have to be constantly staring at your phone. Having the support of parents is absolutely necessary.
When I were a lad mobile phones were generally cast-offs from Watties connected with material called string. Conference calls were tricky however.....
our ten year old has a smart phone he cycles 7.5 km home after school he turns on his phone after school and calls to say hes on his way ..... we have installed a tracking app if we wish we could watch his progress updated every 10 seconds however we have set it so it alerts us if he stops for more than 2 minutes along the way or deviates from his expected route.He gets to be independant excercised and gain the skills to looks after himself whilst we get a safety net if something goes awry. I agree that phones dont belong in school however some of the features available on smart phones allow possibilities that couldnt be there with dumb phones.
Im picking that the last two letters dont stand for Personal Computer.....
Look at all the abductions, both successful and failed recently. Times have definitely changed..I think a phone is a sensible idea in this day and age.
Am I the only parent who literally have to force my teenagers to carry their phones? My daughter is always forgetting it at home or the battery is dead. Doesnt appear to need it or want it. Maybe its a form of rebellion (if mum wants me to carry my phone it must be lame). I honestly dont know how this happened or why they are so seemingly different from other kids. Also not interested in Social Media although my daughter loves to check out the crafts on Pinterest. My son who is 19 is the same. Listens to his music on the phone but other than that cant be bothered with social media or remembering to take his phone when we go out. Any other parents have this experience with their teens?
That was pretty common plan in 2002 on telecom until the market expanded and allowed competitors to drive down lower rates. Guess you younger ones didnt know what it was like.
Not sure I agree. I think learning how to manage such a powerful tool that is always on your person is something kids definitely need to learn. I think parents certainly need to be a bit more savvy; lock down the phone and not install stupid time wasting apps on their phone at all. But Learning about password management, phasing scams, and 2 factor authentication? Thats where the benefit is. Internet access concerns could be managed by an mdm app as part of the byod style. There, Ive created jobs and better prepared the next generation all in one comment. Hire me to do your management people!
I hate seeing kids young as 4 on a phone. I didnt get a phone until i was in the 4th form in 2002 my brick of a Nokia on Telecom $1.59 per min to make calls and $0.50 per txt and couldnt txt or call anyone on 021 network from my 025 number. Then moved up to the Nokia 2280 great phone indestructible at best didnt have to charge it battery life lasted 1 week used it as a bottle opener, miss that old phone.
Our kids didnt have phones until the Feb 2011 earthquake hit ChCh. it took me 1.5 hrs to get to my sons school. The kids were all on the play field waiting for parents to come. some mothers came in crying. My son had heard parents talking about building being down and deaths. he spent 1.5hrs worrying whether I was ok. I didnt find this out until a week or so later when he would want me to stay at the park while he was doing his sport training. I said to him you are in the open, no building to fall and he told me shecwasnt worried for himself, he wanted to know I was ok. I bought both of them basic txt phones so each big shake we all txt each other that we were ok. they then got basis smart phones 1st year at varsity
When Im doing the school pick-up, I notice a lot of kids get on their phones within seconds of leaving the classroom...... Teachers work hard to engage pupils and neither needs smartphones distracting from learning.....Little contradictory there. The pupils arent being distracted from learning if theyre not using them during school time, you witnessed them using the phones after school time.Maybe theyre reading messages from Mum/Dad/Carer about pickup location/time etc Today Im parked down the road to the left past the blue house.... etc.
My kids cycled to primary school, and things happen on the way home, like flat tires or, in one case, a broken arm. We gave them basic phones (no game apps) so they had someone to rescue them.At school these were handed into the office. How is that bad parenting?The primary school itself uses ipads for working, research, etc. This is modern teaching. The high school puts all homework online, and all work is submitted via google docs. Yes, there is an addiction issue, but when I was young people were addicted to TV. My kids dont watch TV, its too boring. Modern world.
Yes to phones when travelling and out on own. No to phones in classrooms. As my youngest has said I dont think of my phone as something to use for school, its for entertainment.
Yes are you kidding. Text Mum bus driver just left me in the middle of nowhere on the side of the road.
This happened to our Granddaughter and a friend,bus driver just dumped them on a country road. Fortunately my Granddaughter was able to phone Mum to collect them . Friend has now also got a cellphone. It is a safety matter.
Each to their own; but I dont see why primary school kids would need a phone.We just got our boy a phone, hes at intermediate, making his own way to after school activities. The phone keeps him in touch should there be a need.The phone gets secured in class during school time so no distractions there.He doesnt get to keep it in his room at night to avoid distractions there too.Thats how it should work I reckon.
School Pick up. Where am I parked? Which way do you turn when you leave the school grounds? Do I need you to cross the road, using the patrolled sidewalk or am I parked on the same side of the road as the school? Am I running late? The phone is a convenient communication device when used properly. No problems here with my child looking at her phone when she steps out of the class.
Lol. No, but I have these exact same discussions with my elderly mother.Youre old! Take your phone in case something happens!
Phones are handy devices but are quite unnecessary and in fact detrimental in a classroom. Give your child a basic phone, they hand it in on arrival at school, pick it up and check those parental pickup texts etc as they leave the school gates. That answers all the issues re communication and safety but without adding yet another distraction from their learning.Yes we live in the modern world and so we use devices: laptops, chromebooks and ipads in the classrooms that work very well for research, writing, presentations and coding etc. They also have screens and keyboards that are far more suited to these activities than a phone screen. These devices are also monitored and audited for the childrens safety and to ensure they are on task. Why would you need a personal smartphone at school?@NBL, I am very familiar with the curriculum and in particular the new digital technologies curriculum. Yes it does expect students to use devices to create a wide range of material. Nowhere does it specifically mention phones as being necessary or desirable.
I sense an opportunity for someone to develop and market a school phone. Hmmmm...
My sons school back in the UK had a very strong rule on phone usage and god forbid a student who walked along during school using their phone. They didnt and it was accepted as part of the school rule. Any school could enforce the no phones to be used during school hours IF they really wanted to. But it just goes into the too much work/hard basket which would result in too many detentions until the students finally realised you dont have to be constantly staring at your phone. Having the support of parents is absolutely necessary.
When I were a lad mobile phones were generally cast-offs from Watties connected with material called string. Conference calls were tricky however.....
our ten year old has a smart phone he cycles 7.5 km home after school he turns on his phone after school and calls to say hes on his way ..... we have installed a tracking app if we wish we could watch his progress updated every 10 seconds however we have set it so it alerts us if he stops for more than 2 minutes along the way or deviates from his expected route.He gets to be independant excercised and gain the skills to looks after himself whilst we get a safety net if something goes awry. I agree that phones dont belong in school however some of the features available on smart phones allow possibilities that couldnt be there with dumb phones.
Im picking that the last two letters dont stand for Personal Computer.....
Look at all the abductions, both successful and failed recently. Times have definitely changed..I think a phone is a sensible idea in this day and age.
Am I the only parent who literally have to force my teenagers to carry their phones? My daughter is always forgetting it at home or the battery is dead. Doesnt appear to need it or want it. Maybe its a form of rebellion (if mum wants me to carry my phone it must be lame). I honestly dont know how this happened or why they are so seemingly different from other kids. Also not interested in Social Media although my daughter loves to check out the crafts on Pinterest. My son who is 19 is the same. Listens to his music on the phone but other than that cant be bothered with social media or remembering to take his phone when we go out. Any other parents have this experience with their teens?
That was pretty common plan in 2002 on telecom until the market expanded and allowed competitors to drive down lower rates. Guess you younger ones didnt know what it was like.
Not sure I agree. I think learning how to manage such a powerful tool that is always on your person is something kids definitely need to learn. I think parents certainly need to be a bit more savvy; lock down the phone and not install stupid time wasting apps on their phone at all. But Learning about password management, phasing scams, and 2 factor authentication? Thats where the benefit is. Internet access concerns could be managed by an mdm app as part of the byod style. There, Ive created jobs and better prepared the next generation all in one comment. Hire me to do your management people!
I hate seeing kids young as 4 on a phone. I didnt get a phone until i was in the 4th form in 2002 my brick of a Nokia on Telecom $1.59 per min to make calls and $0.50 per txt and couldnt txt or call anyone on 021 network from my 025 number. Then moved up to the Nokia 2280 great phone indestructible at best didnt have to charge it battery life lasted 1 week used it as a bottle opener, miss that old phone.