Soon as someone uses their nut and makes a buck, someone else is figuring out how to get a slice of it.No motel/hotel in their right mind would have only one or two rooms to rent as it would not be economic.To stay at hosted accommodation is a popular choice made by the traveler, the Motel owners want that choice removed.Not everyone should be forced into buying a Lada.
Do I take it that if we at least treat these businesses as businesses. then all rental housing [it is a business] should be subject to commercial rates. As should all homes accommodating a boarder . Imagine what that would do to rents eh? Currently I pay nearly $5000 rates for an elderly stucco house in a provincial city, long ago divided into two small units and accommodating just 1 person in each. How much do commercial motels pay per unit I wonder?
The question thats never answered by the anti-Airbnb lobby: If commercial rates are not applied to long-term rentals, why should they be applied to short-term Airbnb rentals? Whats the difference? Theyre both businesses. Airbnb rentals use less council resources as they are not permanently occupied. Its probably fair that Airbnb rentals should pay an appropriate contribution to the council to cover tourism promotion, but thats very different from paying full commercial rates. Hotels/motels pay commercial rates because they can accommodate literally hundreds of people at the same time, requiring lots of council resources. Airbnb rentals might accommodate 4-6 people for 3 months of the year and therefore use less council services than a long-term rental accommodating 4 people for 12 months of the year. I challenge all of you anti-Airbnb lobbyists to answer these basic questions.This whole issue is not about a level playing field, its about Councils being lobbied by the hotel/motel association to shut down the competition.
Maybe if Moteliers upgraded their places and competed at a fair price, people would consider them?Most large families want a shared living facility such as a house and not be separated throughout a motel/hotel. Plus, most of the Air BnBs have things like their own pool/spas etc. I dont think Air BnB hosts should have to pay commercial rates, after all, its just a house, not a series of houses booked out with multiple guests throughout the week.
They cant answer that question Boomshanka, its the hotel/motel lobby painting a grimmer picture, than it actually is, again we see a vested interest, using council resources to lobby against individual ratepayers, to protect their outdated and overpriced accommodation model, and subjecting these council ratepayers to unneccessary expense.
Exactly. Motels & Hotels can advertise on Air BnB too
Depends on the length of stay. Motels are much, much easier for transient accommodation - a night or two. Houses take a while to figure out, so theyre mostly for longer stays. I dont see theres necessarily a conflict, just different market niches.
Some moteliers are finding it hard to grasp that the world is changing and that their business model has and will continue to change. Bleating about competition is a bit like the record industry complaining about people now downloading music or taxi companies complaining about Uber.You should wake up if your in a sunset industry and either get out or adapt.Airbnb is here to stay as are all the new savvy ways of business innovation and evolution.These new ways of doing things are popular because the services and price point offered is more appealing than the old ways of doing things.
Moteliers can bleat, but the reason many avoid motels is that theyre too often abysmal and dont represent value for money. Many who operate airbnb or homestay accommodation have put a great deal of thought into their offering, and pay attention to details, which makes for a much more pleasant stay. Competition can only be good for those needing accommodation.
We recently booked a 3 bedroom house through AirBNB for a group of us (3 couples) to have a weekend away. There was absolutely no equivalent in the motel world where we are going, ie 3 separate bedrooms. And on a recent trip to Taupo (4 of us - 2 couples) booked what we were informed was a 2 bedroom unit only to arrive and find the queen bed in the lounge and 2 singles in what could only be described as a closet (and it cost heaps). So until motels up their game we will continue to use AirBNB for all group trips away in future.
I think there are some that are gaming the system, but for thse of us who rent out our holiday home on a casual basis (around 25 nights a year), what is the problem? I declare the income and pay tax on it. We also offer a house suitable for dogs that most motels dont. Just get those who are gaming to comply with exisitng rules, not more by-laws.
Totally agree .
Councils will never get Airbnbs under control as they would like because they operate in grey areas of the law. Just like Uber has lead to what equates to deregulation of the taxi industry.
I think the concept is good, but certainly cannot have different costs and responsibilities between commercial and residential property owners. I am strongly of the opinion that we should use the kiwi booking sites and not airbnb. Despite the spiel given by the spokesman, their share of the profits will no doubt go through some complex tax avoidance structure on their way out of the country.
Change means change. Sometimes it means progress and sometimes it doesnt
Soon as someone uses their nut and makes a buck, someone else is figuring out how to get a slice of it.No motel/hotel in their right mind would have only one or two rooms to rent as it would not be economic.To stay at hosted accommodation is a popular choice made by the traveler, the Motel owners want that choice removed.Not everyone should be forced into buying a Lada.
Do I take it that if we at least treat these businesses as businesses. then all rental housing [it is a business] should be subject to commercial rates. As should all homes accommodating a boarder . Imagine what that would do to rents eh? Currently I pay nearly $5000 rates for an elderly stucco house in a provincial city, long ago divided into two small units and accommodating just 1 person in each. How much do commercial motels pay per unit I wonder?
The question thats never answered by the anti-Airbnb lobby: If commercial rates are not applied to long-term rentals, why should they be applied to short-term Airbnb rentals? Whats the difference? Theyre both businesses. Airbnb rentals use less council resources as they are not permanently occupied. Its probably fair that Airbnb rentals should pay an appropriate contribution to the council to cover tourism promotion, but thats very different from paying full commercial rates. Hotels/motels pay commercial rates because they can accommodate literally hundreds of people at the same time, requiring lots of council resources. Airbnb rentals might accommodate 4-6 people for 3 months of the year and therefore use less council services than a long-term rental accommodating 4 people for 12 months of the year. I challenge all of you anti-Airbnb lobbyists to answer these basic questions.This whole issue is not about a level playing field, its about Councils being lobbied by the hotel/motel association to shut down the competition.
Maybe if Moteliers upgraded their places and competed at a fair price, people would consider them?Most large families want a shared living facility such as a house and not be separated throughout a motel/hotel. Plus, most of the Air BnBs have things like their own pool/spas etc. I dont think Air BnB hosts should have to pay commercial rates, after all, its just a house, not a series of houses booked out with multiple guests throughout the week.
They cant answer that question Boomshanka, its the hotel/motel lobby painting a grimmer picture, than it actually is, again we see a vested interest, using council resources to lobby against individual ratepayers, to protect their outdated and overpriced accommodation model, and subjecting these council ratepayers to unneccessary expense.
Exactly. Motels & Hotels can advertise on Air BnB too
Depends on the length of stay. Motels are much, much easier for transient accommodation - a night or two. Houses take a while to figure out, so theyre mostly for longer stays. I dont see theres necessarily a conflict, just different market niches.
Some moteliers are finding it hard to grasp that the world is changing and that their business model has and will continue to change. Bleating about competition is a bit like the record industry complaining about people now downloading music or taxi companies complaining about Uber.You should wake up if your in a sunset industry and either get out or adapt.Airbnb is here to stay as are all the new savvy ways of business innovation and evolution.These new ways of doing things are popular because the services and price point offered is more appealing than the old ways of doing things.
Moteliers can bleat, but the reason many avoid motels is that theyre too often abysmal and dont represent value for money. Many who operate airbnb or homestay accommodation have put a great deal of thought into their offering, and pay attention to details, which makes for a much more pleasant stay. Competition can only be good for those needing accommodation.
We recently booked a 3 bedroom house through AirBNB for a group of us (3 couples) to have a weekend away. There was absolutely no equivalent in the motel world where we are going, ie 3 separate bedrooms. And on a recent trip to Taupo (4 of us - 2 couples) booked what we were informed was a 2 bedroom unit only to arrive and find the queen bed in the lounge and 2 singles in what could only be described as a closet (and it cost heaps). So until motels up their game we will continue to use AirBNB for all group trips away in future.
I think there are some that are gaming the system, but for thse of us who rent out our holiday home on a casual basis (around 25 nights a year), what is the problem? I declare the income and pay tax on it. We also offer a house suitable for dogs that most motels dont. Just get those who are gaming to comply with exisitng rules, not more by-laws.
Totally agree .
Councils will never get Airbnbs under control as they would like because they operate in grey areas of the law. Just like Uber has lead to what equates to deregulation of the taxi industry.
I think the concept is good, but certainly cannot have different costs and responsibilities between commercial and residential property owners. I am strongly of the opinion that we should use the kiwi booking sites and not airbnb. Despite the spiel given by the spokesman, their share of the profits will no doubt go through some complex tax avoidance structure on their way out of the country.
Change means change. Sometimes it means progress and sometimes it doesnt
Nice drone shot.