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I dont know why some people call it chores or helping out. Kids do chores or help out, if youre an adult in the house its doing things that need doing.

Makes sense.Endorphines. Oxytocin. Happy happy joy joy.

psychologically. come off it. even now you have a dissecting mentality. thats the problem with this pc bull crap. everything has to be pulled apart to see how its working and then put back together how they think it should be. they tend to mess up alot. hey did your hear of the mother who put her 1yr old into therapy? the kicker was the psychologist thought all 1yr olds should do it. crazy people dont know theyre crazy and theyre counseling crazy. thats crazy! people forget about the instinctive subconscious.

They give up as most have to work, or bottle is just easier. We ignored the breast nazis and did what worked.

Absolutely - like when a guy seen with his child by himself is asked if he is babysitting - you do not babysit your own child - you are parenting it ..... it is your responsibility.

You are ignorant about hormone feedback mechanisms. Yours a Physiology PhD, Dad of 2 now grown and a Developmental Biologist to boot.

totally agree, with my ex i stuggled to feed out two children, he didnt help at all and i was so over tired and stressed my milk dried up. didnt help my babies were prem. I could only feed my son for a few weeks then my daughter 2 months. When my new partner (my husband) and i had our baby also prem, he supported me, helped me find ways to increase my milk supply, helped feed baby while i expressed my milk and did alot around the house. He made me feel beautiful even when i didnt feel beautiful and totally supported my choices. Our daughter ended up with 13months of breast milk.

who cares if you think were ignorant. we are there. we provide support in anyway shape or form. we cannot tell you how to hold the baby thus or let baby latch that way or how to manage mastitis. but we are there supporting anyway. we dont breastfeed but were the supporting crew. why pick everything apart to try and show men in a negative light yet again?

what if its a same sex relationship. does love and support from a same sex couple not have the same effect?

This isnt about gender politics. Its about creating the appropriate environment to support increased breastfeeding. The study shows that physical and psychological support will do that. This needs to be provided by fathers as they are the other half of the family unit (or the other mother if same sex couple, or outside person if single mother). Simple really

Yes but obviously in the vast majority of cases the couple is heretosexual as a baby has recently been born to them. Same-sex parents make up a valuable but still minute proportion of families of new babies.

It would be good if the thesis breaks down the research into separate conditions: (1) Mums with dads who are supportive, (2) Mums with dads who are unsupportive, (3) Mums with someone else around who is supportive, eg other family member, (4) Mums with supportive/unsupportive female partners, and (5) Mums on their own.That would allow some number crunching to find out whether the improved milk production is specific to father support, or whether its just from the mother feeling good in general.

You cant deny that many men are ignorant of the ins and outs of breastfeeding and the physiological connection between mental health and the production of breastfeeding hormones.

Real life isnt gender politics. The two are diametrically opposed. Love is sharing and gender politics is about power.As a person who has postgraduate qualifications I can testify that one can overthink a thesis.....however-Love means being involved because- if you are not - then it isnt love. Anything else is speculation and the baby doesnt care about that sort of thing. It wants a feed. If youre a dad and you arent there? The other two parties are gonna know....like for the rest of their lives that Dad wasnt there....Its not rocket science nor post grad material- it is commonsense.

The article states physical and psychological support increased success. We can only assume that this was what the study was measuring and what it proved. Support being the operative word. I get the feeling you are trying to make some sort of comment about laying blame with fathers.

stress decreases the milk supply, so no support means stressed out and less milk....

Feels supported? So its in their head then.

I donâ't think thatâ's what the article is doing at all. Yes, it mentions the practical things dads can do to support breastfeeding, and Iâ'm sure many fathers are already doing that as you say. I think the article goes further than that though. Many fathers donâ't psychologically support breastfeeding for various reasons including lack of knowledge/understanding of human milk production and breastfeeding, an inability to see breasts as anything other than sexual objects, a lack of breastfeeding role models in their life. While the article didnâ't specifically discuss this as an issue it is common sense to expect this to have a negative on a womanâ's breastfeeding experience. Women are more likely to give up breastfeeding if they feel their partner doesnâ't 'œapprove.' Itâ's not about dissecting families. Yes, families are a team but anyone who has ever been in a long term cohabiting relationship knows full well it takes hard work to maintain and keep that 'œteam' running smoothly and positively. Research like this can only help with that in my opinion.