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I should think Akaroa residents would be highly relieved. The place is a zoo with cruise ships in. Also difficult to get to with numbers of tour coaches using the narrow, winding road.

Im glad the berth is being built and the cruise ships are coming back, but we dont need to ride rough-shod over the environment, iwi or planning process to do it.

If this project follows the road OF ALL other projects in Christchurch, it will (1) not happen (2) will go over budget. (3) time delays) (4) will be much smaller than planned (5) will open accrding to plan

Lyttelton wont make anything either, cruise passengers disembark, board coaches or chartered trains and leave the port, not a cent spent in lyttelton.

Thats what happens when you go on a holiday cruise. When we went on a cruise ship in Europe we disembarked to join tours to see the local areas. Certainly not to stay in the port port. Why could Lyttelton possibly expect tourists to wander around for the day when there is so much to experience elswhere?

Just get it sorted instead of talking about it!

There will be many disappointed people when the cruise ships come back and they are not the cash cows everyone crows about. A cruise passenger sleeps and eats on board the ship, so they may bus into town and grab a coffee or sandwich. They usually book the excursions using the on board concierge. Of course the major South Island port was going to put essential cargo before cruise ships, to suggest otherwise is strange and naive. Looking forward to seeing the real numbers after they come back to Lyttelton.

Canterbury will though. Generally the cruisers do one of 2 things. They get off the ship and wander round the Port, spend a few bucks on coffees and cheap trinkets.. or they get off the ship, board tours and head off to see the country. Those tours pump money into the local economy. They are often 8-9 hour tours, meaning they usually stop to buy lunch along the way. They take them to other destinations where they pay entrance fees and so-on.

Lets not forget an amendment to No2 - and CCC will attempt to keep it from ratepayers. As they have with the Town Hall and the huge library TV screen.

In Dunedin the ships berth at Port Chalmers which doesnt see a cent out of the tourists either. They all hop on buses to Dunedin or go on the Taieri Gorge train.

I dont think LPC can be blamed for the groups protesting the Cruise Berth and the RMA requirements. Unlike the other CCHL companies and CCC projects, LPC tend to deliver on time and budget do the research.

Unfortunately, theres nowhere for the passengers to disembark. We had an opportunity pose-quake to establish a north-south running branch line from Moorhouse Ave to the bus exchange site (plenty of space for a commuter rail terminal) but that opportunity has been squandered. Any future instatement of a terminal in the inner city will be expensive.

maybe akaroa tourist retailers need to up their game then in2it !

There is a tiny little suburb of Christchurch called Akaroa. Yes it is a suburb of Christchurch. Let me give you some better(actual) data.Akaroa is currently the number one ranked port in Australasia. This is marketing gold for Christchurch yet while the Herald and other papers trumpeted this the press was strangely silent as was OUR Canterbury promotions organisation. Where will a Lytelton/Christchurch rank?There are currently 2 Ships that cannot enter Akaroa harbour because of size, not the bonanza you allude to. There are 91 ship visits scheduled to visit Christchurch this year at its second port Akaroa. Approximately 35% - 45% of passengers embark on excursions to greater Christchurch dependent on the ship. If the magical figure of 86 million is being touted as a seasonal boon for Christchurch does it not stand to reason that it is already getting close to that. another 60 million over budget for town hall, i think you just found where that money could come from with little impact to the close to 86 million currently being enjoyed because the cruise ships are already coming to Christchurch. Moving the landing point from one suburb to another just does not make fair sense or am i missing something. Perhaps the powers that be are making an uninfluenced unbiased decision.. Yeah right.It seems 86 million in the right Christchurch pockets is better than 86 million in the general Christchurch pockets.

Mate you are quite wrong, charter busses or trains for excursions and very very few tourists if indeed any in Lyttelton wandering about, Lyttelton will make nothing from this and Christchurch very little, meanwhile lucky beautiful Akaroa looks like getting a bit of serenity back!!

Yes but that problem can be solved if the ship connects to shore power and turns their generators off. Hopefully they will be forced to do so

an Akaroa local told me their businesses dont actually do that well from the cruise ships... lots of passengers disembark, sure, but mainly to stretch their legs and window shop

I say all of the above, except 5

Absolutely 1.Independent tour operators endured a declining market in Dunedin last season.If you dont believe me contact the Dunedin i-site.

How about setting up a passenger train service from the port into the city and/or extending the gondola down to Lyttelton while they are at it.